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The shorter Sam Vimes will be four or five years old by now and long past ''Where's My Cow?'' He'll have to go to school soon. Despite the convenience and outstanding reputation of the the College of Assassins, I'm sure it's not on the list. Neither would the Commander have much use for the likes of [[Hugglestones]], I'd guess. So does that leave private tutoring? The Vimeses can afford ''anybody'', of course, but for a few years, a governess/teacher would be common. I wonder what Susan Sto Helit has been doing lately. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 22:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Unless Vimes and Sybil ''really'' wanted to stir things up, or get him into Susan's class, the [[Frout|Frout Academy for Inquiring Young Minds]] would be out of the question, too! --[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 23:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Samuel Vimes II? Has this been confirmed? The naming convention actually dictates that since he is named after his father, he would be Samuel Vimes Jr. If young Sam decided to have a Sam of his own, then that grandchild would be called Sam Vimes III. [[Special:Contributions/220.255.7.184|220.255.7.184]] 20:05, 18 October 2010 (CEST)
:Hmm. Apparently I wrote that myself, although I don't recall his being called either one specifically. If you're sure "''Jr.''" is the protocol, change it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 21:15, 18 October 2010 (CEST)...an interesting if highly inconsequential point: should he rather be just Lord Samuel Vimes, His Grace having no lesser titles? "The Hon." is probably inadequate for the son of a Duke, as well. We don't have a copy of ''Twerp's'' and we don't really know how closely Morporkian forms of address follow the English. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 01:10, 19 October 2010 (CEST)

== Young Sam's education and future ==

What are the odds that, if Young Sam is enrolled in Susan Sto Helit's class and, if it should come-up in conversation, mentions that he has a dragon sleeping under his bed, and Miss Susan does not believe him, so, the next day, he brings in old Dribble to show her and the class as proof, and than that this 'show-and-tell' thing becomes a regular event in Miss Susan's class in times-to-come.  

This is not necessarily false information, really just a rhetorical question.  What are your thoughts on the subject?

Hmmm....

Entry currently reads, under "Trivia":-

* Given his [[Samuel Vimes|father's]] legendary hatred for [[Assassins' Guild|assassins]], Young Sam will probably be enrolled in [[Frout|another school]] for his education, (given that [[Susan Sto Helit|one of the teachers]] also attended his mother's [[Quirm College for Young Ladies|alma mater]].

While this is certainly plausible,  and it's a reasonable guess from the known evidence, where in Terry's writings does it actually say this for definite? Sorry, but until it's there in black and white in the canon, or can be inferred logically from information therein, then it's speculation, however well informed. Which belongs here on the Discussion page and not in the main article. 

It also occurs to me that going to Frouts and the Assassins' School are not mutually exclusive. Frouts takes children in their primary school years - grades one to five. The Assassins' School takes them in their secondary years - agel eleven to eighteen. Although I can't help feeling any child whose initial education was at Frouts will either be rejected by the Assassins - well, try giving [[Jason]] bladed weapons to play with, and see what happens  - or else they will have a REAL wake-up call, in passing from Penelope Frout to the care of such as Mr Mericet and Miss Band.  The AG school probably maintains a select list of approved preparatory schools as "feeders" to its specialised education. (Now there's a thought - a nursery/primary/prep school geared up to preparing under-tens for the Assassins' School...)

you never know, though. Perhaps, just once, Vetinari might consent to allowing the experiment to take place, as it might be educational to all concerned...--[[User:AgProv|AgProv]] 21:03, 6 April 2011 (CEST)

==Date of Birth==
[[User:Solicitr]] has introduced an extra year here for reasons unclear to me. Young Sam's birth coincided with the millennial events of {{NW}} and {{TOT}} which need to be 1989 UC. Probably an insoluble problem in the elastic history of Discworld, but I vote for [[Narrative Causality]] and 1989. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 01:31, 17 January 2013 (GMT)