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		<title>Old Dickens: although...</title>
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		<updated>2018-04-30T18:13:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;although...&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 18:13, 30 April 2018&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have lots of trouble with the association of Minstrels or Troubadours with the Fools&amp;#039; Guild and the idea that they would similarly restrict themselves to dated and hackneyed material. Certainly in Roundworld history they were the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Daily Show&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of the age, presenting news and commentary as entertainment and writing new material constantly. I don&amp;#039;t remember any canonical denial of this in Discworld either, only that the particular Minstrel wasn&amp;#039;t very good at it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 01:11, 12 June 2011 (CEST)&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have lots of trouble with the association of Minstrels or Troubadours with the Fools&amp;#039; Guild and the idea that they would similarly restrict themselves to dated and hackneyed material. Certainly in Roundworld history they were the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Daily Show&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of the age, presenting news and commentary as entertainment and writing new material constantly. I don&amp;#039;t remember any canonical denial of this in Discworld either, only that the particular Minstrel wasn&amp;#039;t very good at it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 01:11, 12 June 2011 (CEST)&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some years later, I&#039;m still wondering where we learn that minstrels belong to the Fools&#039; Guild. The [[Fools&#039; Guild]] page doesn&#039;t mention them and there would seem to be a [[demarcation]] problem with the Musicians. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 04:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Some years later, I&#039;m still wondering where we learn that minstrels belong to the Fools&#039; Guild. The [[Fools&#039; Guild]] page doesn&#039;t mention them and there would seem to be a [[demarcation]] problem with the Musicians. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 04:36, 29 &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;April 2018 (UTC)&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;But, the scholar [[Book:Turtle Recall|Briggs]] does mention minstrels in passing, without expanding, in his Fools&#039; Guild study. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 18:13, 30 &lt;/ins&gt;April 2018 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<author><name>Old Dickens</name></author>
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		<id>http://caddy.osiris-web.com/index.php?title=Talk:Minstrel&amp;diff=29281&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Old Dickens: still not convinced</title>
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		<updated>2018-04-29T04:36:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;still not convinced&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have lots of trouble with the association of Minstrels or Troubadours with the Fools&#039; Guild and the idea that they would similarly restrict themselves to dated and hackneyed material. Certainly in Roundworld history they were the &#039;&#039;Daily Show&#039;&#039; of the age, presenting news and commentary as entertainment and writing new material constantly. I don&#039;t remember any canonical denial of this in Discworld either, only that the particular Minstrel wasn&#039;t very good at it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 01:11, 12 June 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have lots of trouble with the association of Minstrels or Troubadours with the Fools&#039; Guild and the idea that they would similarly restrict themselves to dated and hackneyed material. Certainly in Roundworld history they were the &#039;&#039;Daily Show&#039;&#039; of the age, presenting news and commentary as entertainment and writing new material constantly. I don&#039;t remember any canonical denial of this in Discworld either, only that the particular Minstrel wasn&#039;t very good at it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 01:11, 12 June 2011 (CEST&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;)&amp;lt;BR&amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Some years later, I&#039;m still wondering where we learn that minstrels belong to the Fools&#039; Guild. The [[Fools&#039; Guild]] page doesn&#039;t mention them and there would seem to be a [[demarcation]] problem with the Musicians. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] ([[User talk:Old Dickens|talk]]) 04:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC&lt;/ins&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Old Dickens</name></author>
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		<title>Osiris: 1 revision: Talk Namespace</title>
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		<updated>2012-12-26T03:16:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;1 revision: Talk Namespace&lt;/p&gt;
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		<author><name>Osiris</name></author>
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		<title>Old Dickens: No Fools</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-11T23:11:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;No Fools&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;I have lots of trouble with the association of Minstrels or Troubadours with the Fools&amp;#039; Guild and the idea that they would similarly restrict themselves to dated and hackneyed material. Certainly in Roundworld history they were the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Daily Show&amp;#039;&amp;#039; of the age, presenting news and commentary as entertainment and writing new material constantly. I don&amp;#039;t remember any canonical denial of this in Discworld either, only that the particular Minstrel wasn&amp;#039;t very good at it. --[[User:Old Dickens|Old Dickens]] 01:11, 12 June 2011 (CEST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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