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== Discworld Timeline 2.0 ==

=== 1. Prologue ===

So I think it's time to once and for all revisit the [[Discworld Timeline]] and try to fix it as it has a lot of issues with it as of now, contradicting many things stated in the novels as well as what Terry Pratchett himself has said.

Most of it was made a long time ago before the later novels came out which gives us more set dates which contradict the old timeline.

=== 2. Fixed points in time ===

There are a few fixed points in time and ways to help us figure out the date of the novels.

* '''The Battle of Ankh-Morpork is 1688'''

The Discworld Companion: ''"The last civil war, and execution and revelation of the personal habits of lorenzo the kind in 1688, marked the final end of any kind of monarchy in the city."''

The Discworld Companion: ''"The Ankh-Morpork Civil war... ...this would have been 1688."''

* '''Feet of Clay takes place in 1987 1 year before the 300th anniversary of The battle of ankh-morpork'''

Feet of Clay: ''“Thing is, it’s the tricentre—tricera—this three-hundred-year celebration thing next year, Mr. Vimes…”... ...“Well…we’re going to recreate the Battle of Ankh-Morpork for the celebrations... ...“Er…I’m going to be King Lorenzo, sir. Er…you know…the last king, the one your…er…”... ...“And who drew the straw to play Stoneface Vimes?”''

* '''Havelock Vetinari Graduates from the Guild of Assassins in 1968'''

The Truth: ''"Lord Vetinari “—who graduated with full honors from the Guild of Assassins in 1968,"''

* '''Havelock Vetinari is the patrician in all books'''

The Discworld Companion: ''"The holder of the office throughout the Discworld Chronicles (apart from some events in night watch) is Havelock, Lord vetinari"''

lspace.org/books/apf/the-colour-of-magic - Terry Pratchett: ''"I'm pretty certain that the same Patrician was in all the books. [...] He's clearly lost weight and got more austere. It must be the pressure... ..."I've always thought the Patrician is a party animal. Can you imagine waking up next day and remembering all those witty things you said and did, and then realising that he was listening?"''

* '''Havelock Vetinari Therefore Celebrates his 10 year anniversary as a patrician in Mort'''

Mort: ''"On this particular night they were scented with saltpeter, too, because it was the tenth anniversary of the accession of the Patrician"''

* '''Mustrum Ridcully is 72 in Soul Music and 67 in Moving Pictures'''

Moving Pictures: ''"the desk of Mustrum Ridcully, the new Archchancellor of Unseen University... ...And yet, at the time, it had seemed a really good idea to elect an Archchancellor who hadn’t set foot in the University in forty years. There had been so much in-fighting between the various orders of wizardry in recent years that, just for once, the senior wizards had agreed that what the University needed was a period of stability, so that they could get on with their scheming and intriguing in peace and quiet for a few months. A search of the records turned up Ridcully the Brown who, after becoming a Seventh Level mage at the incredibly young age of twenty-seven, had quit the University in order to look after his family’s estates deep in the country."''

Soul Music: ''The Dean: He sighed. He was seventytwo... ...Dean: Your trouble, Archchancellor, is that you don’t understand people of our age!” “What…you mean seven months older than me?” said Ridcully.''

* '''The Glorious Revolution is 25 years before Men at Arms'''

Men at Arms: ''"Vimes said, I’m retiring from the Watch tomorrow. Twenty-five years on the streets"''

* '''The bank crash of 88, 93 and 98 happened before Making Money'''

Making Money: ''"We have been badly buffeted in recent years. The crash of 88, the crash of 93, the crash of 98…"''

=== 3. Old Timeline ===

The old timeline is situated at [[Discworld Timeline]] and is based of this even older timeline on lspace.org https://www.lspace.org/books/timeline/dw-timeline-intro.html

So how does the old timeline fit in with the Fixed points in time? well it's got a couple of issues.

* It breaks the rule that Making Money has to be some time after the crash of 98.
* It breaks the rule that the Glorious Revolution is 25 years before Men at Arms.
* It breaks the rule that Ridcully is 67 in Moving pictures, as well as breaks the 5 year timegap between Moving Pictures and Soul Music.
* It breaks the rule that the Patrician is celebrating his 10 year anniversary in Mort as it assumes that the patrician in Mort is Snapcase.

As you can see there are quite a few issues with the current old timeline. And my hope is to try and fix those issues with a timeline that can fit as many of the Fixed points in time as possible.

There are also several other issues with the timeline, for instance Carpe Jugulum is set in the Century of the Anchovy despite stating that it's in the Century of the Fruitbat in the novel.

Carpe Jugulum: ''"Are we not in a unique position as we reach the end of the Century of the Fruitbat?"''

And the fact that several novels in the timeline were placed based upon complete guesses like x novel probably takes place 2 years after y novel because that seems like a good idea.

=== 4. Discworld Timeline 2.0 - A new beginning. ===

First we want to create a set novel we can base the others around, for this the best is the novel that we know exactly when it takes place. Feet of Clay.

==== 4.1 Early Watch novels ====

'''Feet of Clay Is 1 year before the 300th anniversary of the battle of ankh-morpork. The Discworld Companion companion details this very well.'''

Feet of Clay: ''“Thing is, it’s the tricentre—tricera—this three-hundred-year celebration thing next year, Mr. Vimes…”... ...“Well…we’re going to recreate the Battle of Ankh-Morpork for the celebrations... ...“Er…I’m going to be King Lorenzo, sir. Er…you know…the last king, the one your…er…”... ...“And who drew the straw to play Stoneface Vimes?”''

The Discworld Companion: ''"The last civil war, and execution and revelation of the personal habits of lorenzo the kind in 1688, marked the final end of any kind of monarchy in the city."''

The Discworld Companion: ''"The Ankh-Morpork Civil war... ...this would have been 1688."''

'''So {{FOC}} is 1987 and we can easily plot out Guards! Guards! in 1985 and Men at Arms in 1986'''

{{FOC}}: ''"Carrot paused. It said a lot about Captain Carrot that, even after almost two years in Ankh-Morpork"''

{{FOC}}: ''"But he hasn’t touched a drop all year!” said Carrot, giving the recumbent Vimes a shake. “He goes to meetings about it and everything!"''

'''We can now place the Glorious revolution 25 years before Men at Arms which would be 1961'''

{{MAA}}: ''"Vimes said, I’m retiring from the Watch tomorrow. Twenty-five years on the streets"''

'''{{SM}} takes place some time between Men at Arms and Feet of Clay, Detritus takes place in the watch in Men at Arms, is a Constable in Soul Music, and Sergeant in Feet of Clay. This means that Soul Music has to take place ether 1986 or 1987'''

'''{{M}} has to take place some time 16 or more years before Soul Music as Susan is 16 years old in Soul Music. It also has to take place some time after The Color of Magic and The Light Fantastic as the librarian is ape-shaped'''

{{M}}: ''“Oook.”''

{{SM}}: ''"“How old are you?” “Sixteen.”''

**Moving Pictures takes place 5 years before Soul Music as Ridcully is 67 in Moving Pictures and 72 in Soul Music**

Moving Pictures: *"the desk of Mustrum Ridcully, the new Archchancellor of Unseen University... ...And yet, at the time, it had seemed a really good idea to elect an Archchancellor who hadn’t set foot in the University in forty years. There had been so much in-fighting between the various orders of wizardry in recent years that, just for once, the senior wizards had agreed that what the University needed was a period of stability, so that they could get on with their scheming and intriguing in peace and quiet for a few months. A search of the records turned up Ridcully the Brown who, after becoming a Seventh Level mage at the incredibly young age of twenty-seven, had quit the University in order to look after his family’s estates deep in the country."*

Soul Music: The Dean: He sighed. He was seventytwo... ...Dean: Your trouble, Archchancellor, is that you don’t understand people of our age!” “What…you mean seven months older than me?” said Ridcully.

**Reaper Man takes place at the same time as Moving Pictures**

Moving Pictures: *"Windle Poons, who was one hundred and thirty years old"* 

Reaper Man: *"He was one hundred and thirty" (on windle poons age)*

**Small Gods takes place in the same year as Reaper Man**

Reaper Man: *"Windle poons-born in the year of the Significant Triangle... ... died in the year of the Notional Serpent in the Century of the Fruitbat"*

Small Gods: *"It was the Year of the Notional Serpent, or two hundred years after the Declaration of the Prophet Abbys."*

**Small Gods also takes place 100 years before Reaper Man at the same time, in the year of the notional serpent in the Century of the Three Lice**

Thief of Time: *"The history of the country of Ephebe was puzzling, for example. Either its famous philosophers lived for a very long time, or inherited their names, or extra bits had been stitched into history there. The history of Omnia was a mess. Two centuries had been folded into one, by the look of it, and it was only because of the mind-set of the Omnians, whose religion mixed the past and future with the present in any case, that it could possibly have passed unnoticed."*

Thief of Time: *THE BOOK OF TOBRUN HAS NOT BEEN CONSIDERED OFFICIAL CHURCH DOGMA FOR A HUNDRED YEARS. THE PROPHET BRUTHA REVEALED THAT THE WHOLE CHAPTER WAS A METAPHOR FOR A POWER STRUGGLE WITHIN THE EARLY CHURCH. IT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE REVISED VERSION OF THE BOOK OF OM, AS DETERMINED BY THE CONVOCATION OF EE.*

**Now comes the Patrician. Vetinari needs to have been the Patrician for 10 years before Mort, and we know that Snapcase is the Patrician at the end of Night Watch. This means that we need to have 10 years between Mort and The Glorious Revolution. This would mean that Mort has to be placed in 1971, and Soul Music 16 years later in 1987. This also means that The color of magic and The Light Fantastic has to be placed sometime between 1961 and 1971.**

**But Vetinari graduated from the assassins guild in 1968 how does that fit with him becoming patrician in 1961? Well to solve this we have to assume that Snapcase had a very short reign followed by Vetinari taking over, then 7 years later Vetinari gets his post-grad diploma while Patrician, something the Guild of Assassins is known to do.**

Men at Arms: *"That afternoon he (Edward) sold what remained of the d’Eath estates, and enrolled again at the Guild school. For the post-graduate course"*

**The current timeline looks like this**

Century of the Three Lice

* 1882 - Small Gods

Century of the Fruitbat

* 1961 - The Glorious Revolution (Night Watch)
* 1961 ~~ 1971 - The Color of Magic, Light Fantastic
* 1971 - Mort
* 1982 - Moving Pictures, Reaper Man, Small Gods
* 1985 -  Guards! Guards!, Theatre of Cruelty
* 1986 -  Men at Arms 
* 1987 -  Feet of Clay, Soul Music

==== 4.2 Young Sam Vimes is the Key ====

**Now Young Sam Vimes is key to solving most of the timeline, we get to know his age in several novels which helps us to accurately place the others.**

**The Truth Takes place 1~37 months before Night Watch. it's after the first Clacks company was founded 25~37 months before Night Watch (see 4.3 Adding Moist) and The Ankh-Morpork Times appears in Night Watch**

The Truth: *"Dibbler sighed. “I missed out on the semaphore. Just didn’t see it coming. Next thing you know, everyone’s got a clacks company. Big money... ...“And there’s this clacks from Lancre that came in when you’d gone home,” said the dwarf. “That’ll cost us another fifty pence for the messenger.*

**Jingo Takes place "a few months" before The Fifth Elephant as Buggy Swires Joined the watch "a few months" before The Fifth Elephant and is in the watch in Jingo**

''Jingo: *“That’s Probationary Constable Buggy Swires, sir. He likes to get a good view.”*

The Fifth Elephant: *"Constable Swires had been on the force only for a few months, but news had gone around and already he inspired respect, or at least the bladder-trembling terror that can pass for respect on these occasions"*

**The Fifth Elephant Takes place 1~9 months before Night Watch as Sybil Ramkin is pregnant with Young Sam Vimes**

**Young Sam Vimes is born in Night Watch**

Night Watch: *"Sybil was sitting up. He saw, through the mist of exhaustion, that she was holding something wrapped in a shawl. “He’s called Sam, Sam,” she said. “And no argument.”"*

**Thief of Time Takes place at the same time/before Night Watch as the same storm occurs in both.**

Night Watch: *"The lightning struck. Windows blew out and iron gutters melted. Roofs lifted into the air and settled again. Buildings shook. But this storm had been blowing in from far across the plains, pushing the natural background magic ahead of it. It dumped it now, all in one go. They said afterward that the bolt of lightning hit a clockmaker’s shop in the Street of Cunning Artificers, stopping all the clocks at that instant."*

**Where's My Cow? Takes place 13 months after Night Watch as Young Sam Vimes is 1 year old and the event is mentioned in Thud! which is 14 months after Night Watch**

Where's My Cow?: *"to read to Young Sam, who was one year old."* 

Thud!: *"after a trying day, he’d tried the Vimes street version"*

**Thud! Takes place 14 months after Night Watch and Interesting Times as Young Sam Vimes is 14 Months old**

Thud!: *"fourteen-month-old baby"'*

**Snuff Takes place 6 years after Night Watch and Interesting Times as Young Sam Vimes is 6 years old**

Snuff: *"an absolute hoot for a boy just turned six... ...the whole process being a matter of huge entertainment to a boy of six"*

**Raising Steam Takes place 8 years after The Fifth Elephant which would be about 7~8 years after Night Watch**

Raising Steam: *"The King coughed before saying to Vimes, “I remember Sergeant Littlebottom when we met by the Scone of Stone eight years ago. Oh, yes, I remember her.”*

==== 4.3 Adding Moist Von Lipwig ====

**Going Postal Takes place 3 almost 4 years from the invention of the first clacks company**

Going Postal: *"He hadn’t seen a clacks until three years ago, when the first company was founded... ...Sane Alex and Mad Al were old men in the clacks business; they’d been in it for almost four years."*

The Fifth Elephant: *"The new guild must be coining money. Even from here he could see the scaffolding, as workers feverishly attached still more gantries and paddles to the main tower." "It had all happened so fast. Who’d have believed it?" "And it had caught on as fast as every other craze did in the big city."*

**Going Postal also have to take place some time before Thud! as Moist von Lipwigs stamp invention is mentioned.**

Thud!: *Remember the cabbage-scented stamp last month?... ...Oh yes, two stamps. They were very nearly identical. They both showed Koom Valley, a rocky area ringed by mountains. They both showed the battle. But in one, little figures of trolls were pursuing dwarfs from right to left, and in the other, dwarfs were chasing trolls from left to right*

**So we can't place going postal later than 14 months after Night Watch which means that the first clacks company would have to have been created sometime 39~51 months before Thud! or 25~37 months before Night Watch, (Remember that i'm using Discworld years which are 13 months each.)

**Going Postal is also the first novel to mention being in the Century of The Anchovy, The Fifth Elephant and The Truth are detailed as being in the Century of the Fruitbat.**

Going Postal: *"not at all what we need in the Century of the Anchovy... ...there’s the Times and the Pseudopolis Herald"*

The Fifth Elephant: *"you’d hardly think you were in the Century of the Fruitbat."*

The Truth: *“Yes, Dr. Dinwiddie. Er…the Century of the Fruitbat is nearly over, sir... ...the Century of the Fruitbat,” said the Bursar. “We…that’s the one we’re just about to leave, sir.”*

==== 4.4 Creating a timeline with 4.2 and 4.3 ====

**Since Making Money is situated at earliest in 1998 this means that Going Postal cannot be earlier than 1997. And since Going Postal has to be sometime before Thud! we know that Thud! can't be earlier than 1997 either.**

**We also know that The Glorious Revolution cannot take place earlier than 1958 as that is 39 years before Thud! at earliest possible date. and they would probably say more'n 40 or 40 years ago if that was the case. We also know that Thud! cannot take place later than 2000 as that would be 39 years after The Glorious Revolution in 1961.**

Thud!: *Barricades, sir, Colon prompted. “More’n thirty years ago?” Vimes gave a curt nod. Oh yes, he remembered the Glorious Revolution*

**For Going Postal to then take place in The Century of The Anchovy but before Thud! we can place it at the year of 2000 since that is the latest date at which we can place Thud!**

**This means our current timeline looks like this**

Century of the Three Lice

* 1882 - Small Gods

Century of the Fruitbat

* 1961 - The Glorious Revolution (Night Watch)
* 1961 ~~ 1971 - The Color of Magic, Light Fantastic
* 1971 - Mort
* 1982 - Moving Pictures, Reaper Man, Small Gods
* 1985 -  Guards! Guards!, Theatre of Cruelty
* 1986 -  Men at Arms 
* 1987 -  Feet of Clay, Soul Music
* 1997/8/9 - Jingo, The Truth
* 1998/9 - The Fifth Elephant
* 1999 - Thief of Time, Night Watch

Century of the Anchovy

* 2000 - Going Postal, Where's My Cow?, Thud!
* 2001 - Making Money
* 2005 - Snuff
* 2006/7 - Raising Steam

==== 4.5 Tiffany Aching ====

**Since we now have a date for Raising Steam we can somewhat accurately place the Tiffany Aching Novels. The Shepherd's Crown details that the railway is in it's infancy, this places The Shepherd's Crown sometime close after or during Raising Steam**

The Shepherd's Crown: *"The railway was still in its infancy – and already there were these arches"... ...‘Last train into Twoshirts is that... ...she thought: Train? It’s big. It’s iron, and we don’t know about it. And what we don’t know about it could get us killed... ...A belch of smoke from a train steaming over the arches almost enveloped both the dwarf and Geoffrey... ...This fell into a very handy pause as an almighty roar announced another train shooting overhead, smoke and smut billowing in the air"*

**With this in mind we can place The Shepherd's Crown in 2006/7/8 I Shall Wear Midnight is one to two years before The Shepherd's Crown so it takes place some time 2004/5/6/7**

The Shepherd's Crown: *"He recognized her immediately – he had had a bad moment when she’d called in a year or two back and let slip she knew the Feegles."* (Dave the broomstick repair man on the event in ISWM when Tiffany was 15)

**Wintersmith is 3 years before I Shall Wear Midnight so it takes place sometime 2001/2/3/4**

I Shall Wear Midnight: *You’re not sixteen yet and I see you running around nursing people and bandaging people and who knows what chores... ...some seven years ago you took an iron skillet and went into some sort of fairyland"* 

Wintersmith: *Tiffany gave up and sighed. 'I’m almost thirteen,' she said. 'I can look after myself.'" and "It was her birthday....Thirteen years old.*

**This also fits in with Wintersmith having to take place sometime after The Truth as it mentions the newspaper. and probably sometime after Going Postal as it mentions Groat as Assistant Postmaster**

Wintersmith: *"This was reported in the newspapers, and shortly afterward a widow wrote to him saying how much she admired a man who really understood about hygiene. They later were seen walking together, so it’s an ill wind, as they say…"*

Wintersmith: *"Assistant Postmaster Groat did not believe in doctors. They made you ill, he thought. So he put sulfur in his socks every morning and he was proud to say that he had never had a day’s illness in his life. This may have been because not many people cared to come very close to him, because of the smell. Something did, though. A gale roared into his post office when he was opening the door one morning and blew his socks clean off. And no one heard the Wintersmith say: “Sulfur enough to make a man!”*

**A Hat Full of Sky is 1 year before Wintersmith so it takes place sometime 2000/1/2/3**

A Hat Full of Sky: *"Anyway, she was eleven now, and had a feeling that after a certain age you shouldn’t slide down holes in the ground to talk to little men."*

**The Wee Free Men is 2 years before A Hat Full of Sky so it takes place sometime 1998/9/2000/1**

The Wee Free Men: *"She was nine years old and felt that Tiffany was going to be a hard name to live up to."*

==== 4.6 The Rest ====

**The rest of the novels are very hard to place and have been placed on the old timeline by pure guesses. But here's what we know.**

**Equal Rites Takes place sometime after The Light Fantastic and before Moving Pictures**

* Equal Rites: “Ook?” said the Head Librarian
* Eskarina Smith is 7 and 8 in Equal Rites by the time of I Shall Wear Midnight it's hinted that she's old but look young, she can however time travel.
* Equal Rites: "bow to Archchancellor Cutangle"

**Wyrd Sisters Takes place sometime 15 years before Witches Abroad as the Lancre Timeslip moves the witches forward 15 years in time.**

* One theory is that this is sometime 5 years before Jingo as Leonard of Quirm is mentioned in Wyrd Sisters but goes missing 5 years before Jingo

Wyrd Sisters: *“Who designed it?” “A daft old chap in the Street of Cunning Artificers,” said Vitoller. “Leonard of Quirm. He’s a painter really. He just does this sort of thing for a hobby. I happened to hear that he’s been working on this for months. I just snapped it up quick when he couldn’t get it to fly.”*

Jingo: *“I know who he is!” Fred hissed. “That’s Leonard of Quirm, that is! He went missing five years ago!”*

**Witches Abroad Takes place sometime 15 years after the early events in Wyrd Sisters. It is said that Nanny has known Granny Weatherwax for 70 years by this point.**

Witches Abroad: *"Nanny, who had known Esme Weatherwax for seventy years"*

**Lords and Ladies Takes place 3 months before Maskerade as Verence and Magrat gets married in it and in Maskerade it's stated that it's been 3 months since the wedding.**

Maskerade: *"And Magrat had been married for three months"*

**Carpe Jugulum Takes place sometime during the Century of the Fruitbat**

* Carpe Jugulum: *"Are we not in a unique position as we reach the end of the Century of the Fruitbat?"*
* Esme is just 2 weeks old having been born sometime between Maskerade and Carpe Jugulum: *“Little Esme’s only two weeks old,”*
* The novel ends with: *"The year was past the edge, heading away from the dark…Of course, dark would come again, but that was in the nature of the world. Many things were beginning"*

**Sourcery Takes place sometime before Moving Pictures and less than 16 years before The Truth and Takes place about 16 years after Rincewind started trying to become a wizard**

Sourcery: *"he did have a small and exceedingly elderly wire-haired terrier called Wuffles"*

The Truth: *“How old would he be now?” “Sixteen,”*

Sourcery: *"Tonight would be the Eve of Small Gods, and a new Archchancellor would be elected... ...this year it was a pretty good bet that the gods would see their way clear to selecting old Virrid Wayzygoose"*

Sourcery: *"Examine Rincewind, as he peers around the sullen shelves. There are eight levels of wizardry on the Disc; after sixteen years Rincewind has failed to achieve even level one. In fact it is the considered opinion of some of his tutors that he is incapable even of achieving level zero, which most normal people are born at;"*

**Eric Takes place sometime before Moving Pictures**

Eric: *"Finally the new Archchancellor, Ezrolith Churn"*

**Interesting Times Takes place sometime after Moving Pictures and years ago since Sourcery**

Interesting Times: *"Mustrum Ridcully, as head of the college of wizard"*

Interesting Times: *"Rincewind is a bloody nuisance!.. ..Anyway, he hasn’t been seen here since that…unpleasantness with the Sourcerer, years ago."*

**One popular theory is linking Cohens age to Interesting Times and The Light Fantastic with this we might be able to place Interesting Times however he's rather uncertain of his age in Interesting Times**

The Light Fantastic: *'“You don’t live to be eighty-seven in his job if you go around dying all the time'*

Interesting Times: *“Oh, I dunno. Ninety? Could be ninety. Maybe ninety-five?”... ...“When you’ve survived for ninety years”*

**It's also very vaguely hinted that it might be 5 years since he saw rincewind in The Light Fantastic but the narrator dialogue probably doesn't mean exactly 5 years. it's just a figure of speech**

Interesting Times: *As far as Cohen was concerned, people appeared, people disappeared. After a five-year gap he’d just say, “Oh, it’s you.” He never added, “And how are you?.. ..To Rincewind’s relief a spare horse didn’t have to be eaten because a leopardly sort of creature dropped off a tree branch and tried to disembowel Cohen.*

**So with this to play with it could be that Interesting Times is sometime 3, 4, 5 ,6 ,7 ,8 years after The Light Fantastic this is often explained in theories as Cohen having been stuck in the Lancre timeslip for 15 years to fit with it also taking place after Moving Pictures and Cohen therefore is missing adding on 15 years, which would mean that Interesting Times takes place sometime 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 years after The Light Fantastic, the old timeline used the lancre timesplit theory to fit this in.**

**One could use the Lancre timeslip to make this fit with what i've written about the timeline before. or one could simply postulate that Cohen was just 3 years off and is actually 98 as this would fit with Interesting Times taking place right after Moving Pictures 11 years after The Light Fantastic without having to include the Lancre timeslip. as we hear Cohen say himself he's not really sure about his age. so in all, we have no conclusive proof of Interesting Times taking place anywhere other than after Moving Pictures**

**The Last Continent Takes place "several / a couple of months" after Interesting Times and "years ago" since sometime after Sourcery**

Interesting Times: *"Rincewind was sent to some other place... ...“At least you can show us where you think our man is,”... ...“‘XXXX,’” Ponder read"*

The Last Continent: *"This was Rincewind after several months: his wizardly robe was quite short now... ... “I only got here a couple of months ago."*

Interesting Times: *"I don't know anything about that [unpleasantness with the Sourcerer]. I wasn't Dean at the time."*

The Last Continent: *“This is the memo saying I’ve been appointed as Dean!” he said. “That was years ago!”*

**The Last Continent also takes place sometime 3-12 years since Moving Pictures as Ridcully is appointed Archchancellor at the age of 67 in Moving Pictures and is still in his seventies.**

The Last Continent: *"Ridcully was in his seventies and spry even for wizards"*

**Unseen Academicals Takes place in the Year of the Pensive Hare sometime after The Truth and The Fifth Elephant**

Unseen Academicals: *"This is the year of the Pensive Hare.. ..the Times came along to take pictures... ...He had in fact got it from a leader in the Times"*

Unseen Academicals: *"Constable Haddock tells me the Igor’s on duty.. ..Constable Haddock.. ..Sergeant Angua.. ..Lance-Constable Bluejohn.."*

**Monstrous Regiment takes place more than thirty years from the Glorious Revolution and sometime after The Truth and the invention of Clacks.**

Monstrous Regiment: *“Have you met Constable Shoe, Clarence?” said Vimes cheerfully. “One of my staff. Been dead for more than thirty years"*

Monstrous Regiment: *"Because your men tore down the Grand Trunk, you see. The clacks towers... ...“I have seen the clacks towers on the far bank of the Kneck,” said Blouse, his eyes lighting up. “Very clever idea, using big shuttered boxes rather than the old-fashioned semaphore arms... ...William de Worde Editor, Ankh-Morpork Times"* 

**Hogfather There really is no way to place this one what i know of, all we know is that Teppic has the same teacher in Pyramids as Teatime in Hogfather and we know it's sometime after Men at Arms as Constable Visit is mentioned.**

Hogfather: *"I am in fact Corporal Nobbs of the Watch. And this is Constable Visit, sir.”*

Hogfather - Teatime: *"We have to read it, you know, in class. Hah, old Mericet calls it the Guide to the Turf. No one laughs except him, of course"*

Pyramids: *"Teppic had Mericet for Strategy and Poison Theory every Thursday"*

**The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents Is really hard to place. however we have some clues. Maurice is 4 years old in The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents:** *"thought Maurice. I'm four years old already!"*

**Reaper Man Mentions Maurice little scam has taken place in several cities already** 

Reaper Man: *“It’s just that…you remember the trouble with the rats last year? That man who said he had a pipe that played music only rats could hear?” “Yes, but that wasn’t really true, it was all a fraud, it was just the Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents—”... ...“Of course it bloody worked,” said the Dean. “It worked in Quirm and Sto Lat as well. He’d have got away with it in Pseudopolis as well if someone hadn’t recognized him. Mr. so-called Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents!”*

**One thing that might help us link the book is Three-quarters of a teddy bear It is hinted that Tiffany Aching might be the girl Maurice took part of a tea party with as a kitten.**

The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents: *"Once, when he was no more than a kitten, he'd been taken home by a small girl who'd dressed him up in doll's clothes and sat him at a small table with a couple of dolls and three-quarters of a teddy bear."*

The Wee Free Men: *Last time Tiffany had tried to arrange a party, the guests had been a rag doll with no head, two wooden soldiers, and three quarters of a small teddy bear*

**This would place The Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents Sometime 3~4 years after Tiffany's birth to Sometime 3~4 years after The Wee Free Men**

**Pyramids is also really hard to place. Teatime in Hogfather has the same teacher as Teppic in Pyramids Dr Cruces appear in both Pyramids and Men at Arms and The Philosophers appear in both Pyramids and Small Gods**

Hogfather - Teatime: *"We have to read it, you know, in class. Hah, old Mericet calls it the Guide to the Turf. No one laughs except him, of course"*

Pyramids: *"Teppic had Mericet for Strategy and Poison Theory every Thursday"*

=== 5. Conclusion ===

The way I've puzzled together this timeline breaks none of the rules set forth at the start while the old timeline breaks several of them. However there can definitely be ways to break this timeline as well if we find some evidence. I see this new timeline as the more accurate timeline seeing as the old one is based mostly on wild guesses, the old one also doesn't include the Tiffany Novels and has issues with centuries. 

My hope is that you guys can help me Evolve this list and further more accurately place these novels in the timeline, Maybe there are more clues in what weather or season we are experiencing in each novel for instance.